Perry Johnson at the 2023 Des Moines Register's political soapbox

Republican Businessman Perry Johnson talks with a fairgoer before speaking on the Des Moines Register Political soapbox on Friday, Aug. 11, 2023, at the Iowa State Fair, in Des Moines.

Republican Businessman Perry Johnson talks with a fairgoer before speaking on the Des Moines Register Political soapbox on Friday, Aug. 11, 2023, at the Iowa State Fair, in Des Moines.

Republican Businessman Perry Johnson is interviewed by Sean Spicer before speaking on the Des Moines Register Political soapbox on Friday, Aug. 11, 2023, at the Iowa State Fair, in Des Moines.

Republican Businessman Perry Johnson speaks on the Des Moines Register Political soapbox on Friday, Aug. 11, 2023, at the Iowa State Fair, in Des Moines.

Republican Businessman Perry Johnson speaks on the Des Moines Register Political soapbox on Friday, Aug. 11, 2023, at the Iowa State Fair, in Des Moines.

Republican Businessman Perry Johnson talk to the press after speaking on the Des Moines Register Political soapbox on Friday, Aug. 11, 2023, at the Iowa State Fair, in Des Moines.